[ashark]

> Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated)

Don't forget the cleanest, best-performing one: the classic "Basic HTML" interface. Which manages to be much faster for most operations than Inbox or the AJAXified normal version despited having to reload the whole page.

[movedx]

You just have to love that classic approach to web development, right?

JavaScript is great for improving the user experience, but it's often vastly overused and just makes me scream for simpler times such as the classic web app.

[ashark]

I'm increasingly convinced that much better solutions to most of the problems Javascript and AJAX solve ("solve") would have been better frames and improved HTML forms.

[movedx]

Exactly! I use Bootstrap for the auto-scaling to the device, and AlpacaJS for the dynamically generated and adjustable forms... but that's it. That's all I want from JS: form management and validation, and responsive design (and I believe the latter is done in pure CSS anyway?)

[pjmlp]

"Modern" web has made me embrace back native development and see the web as HTML/CSS only, as it should have stayed.

[movedx]

I totally agree.

JavaScript for dynamic forms and validation, and any responsive design functionality it gives me through the use of Bootstrap/SemanticUI... that's it.

[dingo_bat]

And inbox is the slowest and most non intuitive interface of all.