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by alextp 5912 days ago
I think the main reason people mind so much that dirty tricks work on women (and forget that even simpler tricks work on men as well) is this idealization we culturally have of women as far-away difficult perfect prize-worthy things.

If you look at women as people you stop being surprised by these things (like that story I saw on reddit a few months ago about a research on "why women have sex"). I find it sad how sexist the whole pick-up scene is in this smug superiority they seem to teach people to approach the whole business.

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The "smug superiority" is a necessary part of the pick-up scene - it is what makes a pickup artist successful. People don't like the "dirty tricks" (read: faking narcissism/arrogance) because they reveal truths which people like to deny.

Simpler tricks (e.g., a pushup bra) do work on men. But since no one denies that men are superficial and like big boobs, revealing this fact doesn't make anyone angry.

This is because men are supposed to be seduced easily. People who see double standards everywhere are accurate in one sense, but might benefit from revising their perspective. It's not a very good game if the sides aren't opposing.

I think we hate the dirty tricks men pull to get laid the same reason we hate the dirty tricks women pull to get love-struck men hanging on to them: in some sense we have an easy time feeling but a hard time defining, it's breaking the rules of the game. Faking confidence, lying, telling stupid stories, using parlor tricks, &c. to pick up girls is breaking all kinds of social rules, but modern society is ill-equipped to stop them. In the book "The Game", Mystery states explicitly that taking advantage of the modern society/social rules impedance mismatch is what he does (though not in those words).