[b2m9]

Yeah, I see your point. But I would emphasise dahart's argument that we, and especially law enforcement in a democratic society, should have higher standards. Well trained and educated members of the police force shouldn't act like bullies in a high school - no matter if they think their job is important or not. Like everyone else at their job, they need to be professional. Probably more professional than most of us sitting in front of a computer.

[harryh]

Sure of course.

I'm just staying that if you start with "I don't understand why our law enforcement standards are currently so low!" then you're probably not going to be helpful in fixing the problem.

Gotta diagnose first. Diagnoses comes with empathy and understanding.

[dahart]

> Diagnoses comes with empathy and understanding.

Yes! Agreed, and the good news is we can do both, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. We can have empathy and high standards at the same time.

[harryh]

I would go further and say that we have to do both. Without empathy high standards are impossible.