[jobu]

"It has long been Mobileye's position that Tesla's Autopilot should not be allowed to operate hands-free without proper and substantial technological restrictions and limitations," said the company's most recent statement, adding: "In communications dating back to May 2015 between Mobileye Chairman and Tesla's CEO, Mobileye expressed safety concerns regarding the use of Autopilot hands-free."

That seems a bit damning for Tesla, but it's hard to take very seriously without examples of the "communications".

[manyxcxi]

I'm no Luddite but I basically yelled at my business partner the other day when he took his hands off the wheel, eyes off the road, and was punching out an email as if we were on the train.

I've done plenty of computer vision projects and pitched in on some autonomous driving/flying hobby projects- so I'm definitely willing to accept our robot driving overlords, but maybe I know just enough about it to know we're not all the way there yet.

I feel like Tesla is in a bit of a Catch-22 in that to get the system better you want as many people driving with it and feeding you data. At the same time people are people and they will get lulled into a complacent state and begin not paying attention pretty quickly.

That being said, if there was some data that said right now, today, Tesla autopilot is better than the average (or maybe up to the 75th percentile) driver, I'd be okay with people just letting it take the wheel and not screwing things up.

EDIT: Just to be clear, we were in a Tesla w/ autopilot. We weren't just coasting down the highway at rush hour in a regular car.

[foofoo55]

Tesla could gets lots of quality data with the autopilot disengaged and running in a passive state such that the autopilot's calculations are compared to the human driver's actions. Any large variances (such as the autopilot wanting to suddenly veer left when the driver didn't) would be very valuable. I've done this with experimental machine control algorithms a number of times.

[majewsky]

What makes you think they're not doing it?

[6nf]

There's not enough data yet to say for sure, but currently Tesla's autopilot record is one fatality per 70 million miles (assuming the recent Chinese death involved autopilot)

You can compare this to your local road stats. I don't think autopilot is there yet in terms of safety.

[arekkas]

computing an avarage over one or two data points is questionable statistics

[TheShadowRunner]

/r/TeslaMotors dug up this video[1] of MobilEye CEO talking about the Autopilot, so if they really disagreed with the usage of Autopilot, shouldn't they have brought that up prior, and not included it in promotional material. From all indications on their end, I believe that they said that the Tesla Autopilot shouldn't be driven hands-free. I have no qualms with that, but why then use the Autopilot as a promotional feature for their products? Not trying to fanboy with Tesla here, as I do think that MobilEye was right in pulling their products away from Tesla.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCMXXXmxG-I

[bsaul]

Are you kidding ? His talk basically explain that we're not there yet ( at 2min "this is a challenge that remains to be solved")... It's not a marketing talk. It's a tech talk on the general issues faced before we can reach the goal of autonomous driving ( and how mobile eye can help, of course).

Also, in his conclusion (38min) : " you have to take this tools with a grain of salt, people tend to overreach..." He is talking about his own tools, the tools he presented. I can't see how someone can be more cautious and humble.

[jaimex2]

Oh wow, you can clearly see they were willing to go with it till there was an accident and they then immediately buckled under the first sign of trouble.

I can totally see why Tesla ditched them.