[beagle3]

That's not really fair.

upstart was created way before systemd, and in many respects was an improvement over the init.d scripts -- furthermore, they made no effort to make it into a squid with tentacles in everything (which some people consider RedHat with systemd do).

Ubuntu started using "baz", which was a fork of "arch/tla"; I think both predate git, and IIRC Linus said that tla even informed some decisions in git (by setting a negative example of the wrong way to do things). "bzr" was adopted because "baz" was at a dead end, "bzr" already existed (and showed some promise), and it wasn't clear which among bzr/mercurial/git/monotone is going to be the best option.

Mir and Snap are going their own way, yes - but they do that in a civil way, as far as exerting their influence goes.

[digi_owl]

Yeah, saying Canonical push stuff hard seems to ignore that RH push just as hard. They just do it via Gnome and Freedesktop rather than from their own PO box.

If you check the mailing lists you will again and again find a redhat.com address setting the agenda.

And consciously or not that agenda will align with RH interests.