[tanqueray]

Person 4's fascist solipsism is astounding. She has transferred the "toxicity" and "unacceptability"in her own mind onto the whole team.

A song was referred to but there was no actual mention of sexual assault. The song is not "completely unacceptable" as it is obviously commonly known and legally sold. It is therefore acceptable in the workplace, referred to as it actually was.

[chillacy]

Person1 seems to be genuinely sorry as well. Probably person1 was fearing for his job over what seems to me to be a harmless joke.

Sending an email to the entire company instead of talking to the person in a private message is probably the height of Shame Culture. Oh and then publishing this in the news too.

[flukus]

It's also clear that she has listened to the song enough to know the words too. So she was happy offending herself.

[tanqueray]

Good point.

I don't know the song myself. If I worked at Apple I'd have reported person 1 for not being inclusive enough...

[dragonwriter]

> It's also clear that she has listened to the song enough to know the words too.

I've never listened to the song, and the exchange in the thread was sufficient to inform me of the information that it complained about, to wit, that it was a song referencing sexual assault.

Its not like the exchange was at all subtle or opaque.

[eli]

I'm aware of lots of offensive things that don't belong at work.

[tanqueray]

The question here is was what was written in that email offensive and not to be written in the workplace...

[zaroth]

Well, this was a chatroom. I do think it's important to recognize the level of planning which goes into what someone is saying and adjust expectations accordingly.

Now that our communication tools are capturing everything we are saying in real-time, do we truly expect 30,000 people to never make a comment that could possibly offend someone else?

I do wonder if just reading a comment like this in a company chatroom (along with an immediate apology) requires taking a month off, if perhaps there isn't a reasonable accommodation that could be made here to help Danielle be successful at Apple.

[flukus]

How many songs do you find offensive but listen to often enough to memorize the words?

[in_cahoots]

Where does it say that she memorized the words? I've never heard the song but I've heard about it and know the "hide your kids" bit. It's not like she's reciting the Gettysburg Address here.

[daughart]

Lots of things are sold legally and commonly known, but are still not acceptable to discuss in a workplace.

[tanqueray]

I'm struggling to think of some examples. Perhaps you could tell us what you have deemed to be "unacceptable".

[flukus]

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be. What is sold legally bu unacceptable to discuss in the workplace?

[JazCE]

errr sex toys?

[flukus]

But why should that be inappropriate to discuss?