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by 1024core 3563 days ago
> but thankfully we outgrew them.

Did you, really? Have you looked at the gay-bashing that Christians indulge in? Or how about actively encouraging the destruction of Palestinian property and removal (even murder) of Palestinians, simply because they believe that "Jesus" won't reappear unless all of Palestine is ruled by Jews??
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r_smart 3563 days ago
>Have you looked at the gay-bashing that Christians indulge in?

But look at matters of scale. In Islamic theocracies, it is frequently illegal and the punishments severe. Even in attitudes, the numbers are really, really bad. Compare these two polls, one of predominantly Islamic countries and one of America (arguably the most Christian nation in the world). Obviously the US still has some work to do, but it's way ahead on this issue.[0] [1]

[0]: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi...

[1]: http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u-s-public-becoming-less-...

*edit: Typo, and added a qualifier

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dragonwriter 3563 days ago
> In Islamic theocracies, it is frequently illegal and the punishments severe.

The only reason its not illegal in much of the US (and, actually, the laws prohibiting it are on the books in a number of states but unenforceable due to federal action) is that would be Christian theocrats have been defeated by other political actors. Which is a certainly a good sign for the US, but hardly consistent with the idea that Islam is uniquely problematic and that Christianity has "outgrown" the same kind of repressive tendencies.

> America (arguably the most Christian nation in the world)

Maybe the most Christian first-world state with an area greater than 110 acres, but certainly not the most Christian nation in the world.

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r_smart 3563 days ago
I never stated Islam is uniquely problematic, just that the person I was replying to was making a poor comparison. I think at this current moment in the world, one could certainly make a case that it's uniquely problematic. Would you claim otherwise?

>would be Christian theocrats have been defeated by other political actors.

What happens to the people in Islamic theocracies that try to challenge the religious status quo?

And which more Christian nation did you have in mind? Maybe we can dig up something on attitudes there if you think it's a more accurate comparison.

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