[archagon]

I feel like Tesla is a super creepy company that people aren't giving enough scrutiny to just because their tech is so great. What was that story about them remotely locking out a hacker from snooping around in their software? What about all those articles where they do an uncomfortably accurate play-by-play of someone's accident? I'm not comfortable with the idea of a company having that much access to private data.

[digdigdag]

I don't quite see how it is "creepy". Tesla's autopilot is not a requirement for operating their vehicle. It is an experimental value add that you have to agree in order to be included in the program.

As with any beta testing of software, high-fidelity diagnostic data is a must, especially in these circumstance as you have no other way of simulating the various scenarios people find themselves in when driving.

[archagon]

I could be wrong, but it seems they phone home for all sorts of things even without autopilot enabled.

[Fej]

Software that can end lives should not be beta tested on customers. Full stop.

In no way is it acceptable to give customers "experimental" software, overhype it, and disclaim responsibility when it inevitably fails.

[Piskvorrr]

...which gets you Toyota brake pedal software, which, in retrospect, doesn't look tested at all. Better? (Deadlier for sure)

[yessql]

They log everything whether you opt in or not. But as a cell phone user, I feel like I have opted out of all location privacy already.

I'll trade my location privacy for awesome car capabilities.

[TorKlingberg]

Most people don't own a Tesla anyway. It's a little harder to avoid being tracked by Google, Apple, Facebook and Microsoft.