[Fraterkes]

Yeah, and it's weird that he keeps insisting that games like DOOM and super meat boy wouldn't be considered art (while treating games like Gone Home and Firewatch like they've somehow betrayed the medium). I mean, if you don't consider those "gamey" games art, then why do you argue that games can be art at all? We often consider movies art based on qualities that only movies possess (acting, how it's shot) instead of pure narrative quality. So of course we can consider Super Meat Boy art, based on how well it is designed.

[ajuc]

Yes. Different kinds of art use different tools. You don't argue instrumental music isn't art because it has bad dialogs.