[Gotperl]

I have to agree. Today may be the day Apple jumped the shark. The use case for a headphone jack is just so broad. And the wireless headset just seems so...useless.

Spent the last hour looking at android phones. There are so many it is overwhelming

[flukus]

> Spent the last hour looking at android phones. There are so many it is overwhelming

I get what you mean, there are dozens of manufacturers, each with dozens of SKU's. I wish more companies would learn from apple and limit the number of SKU's available (especially laptop manufacturers).

I've been using android since 1.6, but it's increasingly becoming google integrated OS, I think for my next phone I'll be considering ubuntu and other options.

[kapitalx]

I switched to android two years ago, it took a month for me to get used to the interface, but now trying to use iOS is frustrating as it's missing so many features that I depend on in android. So basically you'll have to give it some time if you're switching.

Also stick with the Nexus line, you'll get no bloatware and you'll receive monthly security updates. The one advantage of iOS is that it feels snappier and apps load faster than on my nexus 6p. I blame the jvm ;)

[eip]

Android doesn't use the JVM.

[dhawalhs]

You might want to take a look at this Wirecutter article: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-android-phone/

It helps narrow down the options.

[20yrs_no_equity]

Apple jumped the shark in 2001 with the iPod. People have been saying that for decades.

There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth. Seriously. Want to integrate something from sparkfun? Bluetooth is what you want.

I think it's kinda funny how Apple haters / android zealots always talk about how Apple has lost its way, every time they do something new and significant.

iPod: complaints iPhone: complaints Mac Pro: complaints iPad: complaints and jokes Apple Watch: complaints. All of these have been hugely successful products.

But the day of their announcement people complained about how much they obviously sucked.

[majewsky]

> There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth. Seriously. Want to integrate something from sparkfun? Bluetooth is what you want.

Using your existing 250€ wired headphones while the phone is charging. Doesn't seem that outlandish to me.

[20yrs_no_equity]

Since you're charging, by definition you're not mobile.

Easy: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/08/belkin-announces-s...

[Turing_Machine]

"There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth."

Using a quality external microphone.

[20yrs_no_equity]

Audio can go both ways over lightening.

[Turing_Machine]

Nope. The Lightning port is a purely digital connector. Using an external analog microphone would require some kind of external ADC (i.e., one more bit of kit to misplace).