[ocdtrekkie]

As someone occasionally told my job is becoming irrelevant by people here on HN, I hope you folks have some regard for sysadmins who do on call regularly and (likely) get paid drastically less to do it. ;)

I've been told here that now developers can and should do everything, but it doesn't seem like a lot of developers want to be called in at 2am.

[ownagefool]

I think the term developer is a bit loaded. If you're properly developing an application, you should know what your dependies are, where you store your data, what are the failure condiditions are, how to prove your appication is actually functioning.

In my world, developers barely understand the programming language or framework they're using and are more interested in using buzzword foo rather than solving the problem at hand or dealing with actually running the systems that solve said problems.

As someone who does both dev and ops jobs, together and seperatly, I think your job will be safe for a very long time.

[all_usernames]

"In my world, developers barely understand the programming language or framework they're using and are more interested in using buzzword foo rather than solving the problem at hand or dealing with actually running the systems that solve said problems."

Oh, man. A thousand times this. Many devs I work with have been writing code that runs on AWS for years, and don't know what RDS means.

[toomuchtodo]

> As someone occasionally told my job is becoming irrelevant by people here on HN

HN is an enormous echo chamber; Take it with a liberal amount of skepticism.