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by WalkingDead 5915 days ago
> I think it's laughable to try to draw a comparison between soldiers fucking up and causing collateral damage and the Holocaust.

That's not what you said. You said...

> the blood is on the hands of the people who started and continued the war > not the ones who have to actually fight it.

I disagree with that statement. With the same argument, one can justify all war killings. Even the act of Nazis. We don't bring in Godwins law when discussing and comparing war and killings.
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alexgartrell 5915 days ago
but there's a difference between being a German soldier and manning the death camp. No one takes issue with the German soldiers who invaded France -- they were doing their jobs. The problem is with the people who rounded up the innocent women and children, put them in trains, and then sent them off to die.

You can certainly make an argument that they're the same, but I think there's a pretty clear practical distinction between the two.

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Empact 5915 days ago
Is it really much comfort to say: well, at least we're not rounding them up into death camps?

I don't find people do much discriminating between different groups of Nazis. The infantry perpetuated violence and death just as much as the death-camp members. After all, what do you think they did to the newly-conquered populations those polite infantrymen rounded up?

There's also a difference between the world 100 years ago and today. We live in a more civilized, more peaceful time. The violence in Iraq is some of the broadest and most destructive of our day.

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WalkingDead 5915 days ago
> The problem is with the people who rounded up the innocent women and children, put them in trains, and then sent them off to die. >

The whole point of this video is about killing of innocent man, women and children by shooters who wanted to kill. Not soldiers killing soldiers. Whether they were rounded up or not, or put on a train or not shifts the focus.

The discussion is not about does this resembles the Nazis or not. It's about: are we looking for a justification for this killing by falling so low on the morality ground, that the same logic can even be used by the Nazis for justifying their killings.

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