[blakeyrat]

Java might have the framework(s), but where's the tooling? Java doesn't have a single decent IDE.

The thought that Apple's Swift might actually come the closest to what I want after .Net occurred to me, also. Ugh.

[cartman82]

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

Seriously, at this point, Jetbrains IDE-s are better than Visual Studio.