[johnward]

Pittsburgh 2006 and I had about 40k in loans. Paid off my loans and have about 20k left to pay on my moms parent plus loan.

As for the employment situation. I think I might get filtered out simply for not having a BS sometimes. Sometimes I leave education off my resume and then I can discuss it when the recruiter calls and explain WHY I went there.

Other than that I just climbed the industry ladder over the last 10 years to put me into a decent position (six figures). At this point I do think the experience is way more valuable than the degree but I do lack some basic CompSci knowledge. I can't justify going back to school since the credits don't transfer and I make too much to justify additional debt. The ROI just isn't there.

The classes at ITT Greentree were laughable. I learned more just tinkering on my own. They were so easy to pass and you could tell the instructors were used to underachievers. I don't think they were allowed to fail anyone, even for lack of attendance. There seemed to be a large presence of ex-military spending their grants on the school too.

I had 1 instructor that was really good but all the students hated him. Another was fired for doing lines in the bathroom after I graduated. He would always stop class and send people to get little ceasar's cheesy bread. I knew he was on something. One day he went into a rant about how beautiful our hardback RDBMS book was. He never had us actually open the books but told us how gorgeous they were. That guy was so high.

I'm highly interested in seeing if there will be any forgiveness of debt for fraudulent practices.

[jotato]

'The classes at ITT Greentree were laughable. I learned more just tinkering on my own. They were so easy to pass and you could tell the instructors were used to underachievers.'

I was at Moon. I worked there as a lab assistant and became friends with the instructors. I approached a few about this, and was told in confidence they are not allowed to fail students without approval from the director. Really, the only grounds for not passing were never (literally) showing up for class. If a student came just once they had to find a way to pass them. Usually this meant I had to tutor them.