[dogma1138]

Last time I've checked there is an intelligence oversight committee.

You can say that the process can be improved but it's not like there is a shadowy organization that does w/e it wants without any oversight.

[vidarh]

Remember when the CIA managed to finally get even Feinstein to make statements critical about surveillance, after it was clear that the CIA was caught spying on the Senate intelligence committee while they prepared the report on torture?

Snowden is another good example of how poor the oversight is - whether because they didn't think any of what has been revealed was wrong, or because they didn't know. I'm not sure which is worse.

[type0]

> but it's not like there is a shadowy organization that does w/e it wants without any oversight.

And how would you know when documents are classified and everything can be overrun by secret courts and intelligence puppeteers?