[cornholio]

> but your average young people who just happen to experiment

That's exactly how "stereotypical bad" people start out. It's just that fentanyl kills them faster, while other drugs leave them time to self destroy until we no longer have any empathy.

[Retric]

A surprisingly large chunk of the population has tried opioids, a relatively small percentage become the classic druggie. Much like alcohol is common, but only some people have major issues.

The difference is how long the average person can stay a casual user.

[elbigbad]

Everyone starts out that way. Some stop, some turn into stereotypical bad people. It's a real shame when anyone at the first stage overdoses and dies. Still a shame for the latter group, but they have more culpability for their own death by continuing to do something they know could/will eventually kill them.

[infinite8s]

Do they really have culpability in the face of extreme addiction?

[kgwgk]

Did they get addicted by accident?

[meddlepal]

Nobody starts of planning to get addicted. And while they certainly should realize that's a risk I'm not sure it ever factors into anything. Much like harsh punishments don't actually deter crime.

[kgwgk]

Sometimes we take decisions without being fully aware of the consequences (or simple choosing to ignore the consequences), but this doesn't make us less responsible. Nobody drives intoxicated planning to have an accident, for example.

And of course punishments deter crime. Not the crime that happens, obviously, but the crime which is never committed. There would be more rape, theft and murder if there were no consequences at all.

[lisivka]

I am 100% sure they all are started with «harmless» marijuana.

[ggus]

the same way all the high speed accidents happen to people that started driving at the «harmless» speed of 20km/h.

What I want to say is that demonizing marijuana can allow a bad comparison in the form "marijuana did nothing bad to me, all the thing they say about drugs are nonsense, so I can move to other drugs and be ok".

Truth is marijuana is harmless, compared to almost all the other drugs, including alcohol and tobacco.

[lisivka]

> It's a real shame when anyone at the first stage overdoses and dies.

Yeah, it's bad for business. Good consumers must sink all their money and all money of their relatives to drug dealer, drug clinics, etc.