[granfalloon]

"But if you continue and success in the 12th, it is no luck. In fact if you never succeed your behavior will be called and obsessive compulsive and pathologic."

You say that if you eventually succeed after many failures, it's not luck. But then you also acknowledge all of the people who never succeed despite their dogged persistence. How do you reconcile those two statements?

[AstralStorm]

There are failures and there are critical failures...

For the less well off (initially lucky), the line between those is much thinner.