[sbov]

Yeah, but in most games of skill you have some system in place to ensure your best players don't drive away the worst. When money gets involved things become murkier though.

[bitwize]

Tell that to the person who logs onto League of Legends to see what the fuss is about, and is dinged with "l2p nub" -- and worse.

[Spooky23]

When you tie an arm around the "skilled" player's back, you can't justify claiming that what you do isn't gambling.

[sbov]

It's not about tying their arm behind their back, it's about putting skilled players against skilled players. In pretty much any skilled game you have rough tiers that people of similar skill level face eachother.

In general, high school teams don't play against pro teams. And if they do, we don't call the high school team "suckers" if they lose.

[Spooky23]

The incentives are different. Gambling models that require a rake always have a sucker tier.