[gerbilly]

>But they all work symbiotically in the exact same way, no matter whether you view them as a single entity or a composite system.

That sounds like a utopia. None have been seen in the wild. Factions can form inside vertically integrated systems as well.

I also never claimed that there can't be profit taking in the nationalized system.

I only said that if there's going to be waste, I'd rather have it come from a system that isn't structured to deny care, or to make it prohibitively expensive.

Nobody likes people who are cheap. Did you ever go to somebody's house for dinner where they measure out wine with a graduated cylinder, and put out tiny portions?[1]

How about people who a cheap with the necessities of care for their loved ones? I'd rather treat everyone at the hospital like royalty, and not be cheap.

We can afford it. Just cut back on true waste like astronomical defense budgets for starters.

[1] Excluding cases where the hosts are truly poor.