[SloopJon]

Each time Microsoft releases free software, there has been discussion about whether they're really participating in a community. When Jason closes a PR, saying that it needs an RFC, and oh, by the way, you aren't allowed to start an RFC, I'm skeptical. When Jeffrey provides a work around, opens an RFC, and is generally diplomatic, I'm more hopeful.

One thing I find interesting is Frank's claim that "You have then ignored bug reports about this for years." It seems like users have a better chance of getting problems addressed on Github than the previous feedback mechanism.

Edit: after reading Daniel's blog post, which laurent123456 mentioned in another comment, this has indeed been a longstanding nuisance for curl users.

[kohanz]

> One thing I find interesting is Frank's claim that "You have then ignored bug reports about this for years." It seems like users have a better chance of getting problems addressed on Github than the previous feedback mechanism.

Maybe, but I see that more as just that the "new MS" is trying to become more open and integrated with the OS community. The change being in the company culture and approach rather than the reporting platform. Ignoring long-standing bugs on many products was just the modus operandi for the old MS.

[qwertyuiop924]

Yeah. The whole "new MS" thing is nice.

Now if only UWP will either open itself or die, I'll finally say that old MS is gone for good.

[bad_user]

W00t, the new Microsoft is totally not like that old Microsoft that used to fund SCO's lawsuit and spread FUD about competing open-source software and patents violations.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/08/windows-10-microsoft-b...

http://www.zdnet.com/article/310-microsoft-patents-used-in-a...

http://techrights.org/2015/10/01/microsoft-loves-linux-brain...

They indeed changed. Back in those days they weren't violating their customers' privacy.

[Aldo_MX]

What's your point? Even Ubuntu sold what you typed in Unity Search to Amazon.

By the way, the thread to discuss about Windows 10's privacy issues is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12305598

[pritambaral]

1. Ubuntu doing it doesn't excuse MS. They're completely unrelated companies, and Ubuntu doesn't represent all of the FOSS OS world. 2. Ubuntu actually listened and stopped doing it.

[jerkstate]

If all of your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?

[wolfgke]

> If all of your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?

Probably: https://xkcd.com/1170/

[Delmania]

I love how the EFF singles out Windows 10, but doesn't mention iOS and stock Android pretty much do the same thing.

Your tech rights articles points out IV, but fails to mention they raised money from Google. They also like to equate Linux, Android, and ChromeOS. That article is just poor. Microsoft has done, and continues to do some shitty things. Windows 10 update and privacy is a debacle. But their releases from a tech standpoint are a welcome change.

[qwertyuiop924]

Yeah, this is the kind of thing I was talking about.

OTOH, you're seriously linking techrights? They're like the Free Software version of Fox News for tech.