[Zardoz84]

The most important thing for me. Zen cores have the AMD equivalent of Intel AMT ? (I don't remember the name).

If it haves it, I would avoid it like a pest, and get an FX-8370 or 8350 to replace my now aging FX-4100. The last thing that I like to have on my computer is a hidden uncontrollable CPU doing things that could affect to my privacy.

[milcron]

Unfortunately, it seems impossible to acquire a modern x86/x64 chip without such hidden firmware. The last Intel CPUs without it are from 2008, and the last AMD CPUs without it are from 2013.

If you can tolerate using a different CPU architecture, Raptor Engineering's Talos Secure Workstation looks very intriguing. https://www.raptorengineering.com/TALOS/prerelease.php

[rasz_pl]

>last Intel CPUs without it are from 2008

and those have cpu wide ring0 escalation bug https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Domas-Th...

[imtringued]

Why is the power8 architecture not more widely used? The performance is competitive with the intel's Xeon series and for memory or IO bound workloads a power8 CPU is often superior.

[SXX]

What you talking about is Platform Security Processor (PSP) and according to libreboot website it's built in all their CPUs released since 2013.

[snuxoll]

Libreboot is inaccurate on this one, as far as I can tell this is only on the Puma chips right now, but it's likely it will make it's way to other chips as they come out. Newer Bulldozer-derived (Family 15h) cores made today such as the current FX lineup do not have the PSP.

[Zardoz84]

So, I'm going to grab an FX8350

[dmm]

Get the 8320e at Microcenter for $90 and over clock it. It'll be faster and cheaper.

[snuxoll]

AMD has the Platform Security Processor in the Puma chips (Mullins and Beema) which serves the same purpose as the Intel ME (Management Engine). I would not be surprised if this made its way into Zen.