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by TillE 3591 days ago
By being sued for invading someone's privacy?

I don't like Peter Thiel, but he wasn't the judge or the jury.

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We can't let distaste for Gawker in particular blind us to the underlying narrative here. I think Popehat[1] summed up the deeply concerning issues this Gawker mess has brought to the fore:

For most of us the scary part of the story is that our legal system is generally receptive to people abusing it to suppress speech. Money helps do that, but it's not necessary to do it. A hand-to-mouth lunatic with a dishonest contingency lawyer can ruin you and suppress your speech nearly as easily as a billionaire. Will you prevail against a malicious and frivolous defamation suit? Perhaps sooner if you're lucky enough to be in a state with a good anti-SLAPP statute.

[1] https://popehat.com/2016/08/18/gawker-money-speech-and-justi...

Since when is a legitimately selected jury, with no external influences, finding Gawker guilty "abusive suppression of speech" or "malicious and frivolous"? Bollea likely would have won the case easily even if he hadn't received outside funding; the violation was just that egregious.

I have a hard time taking seriously the "underlying narrative" various self-interested news sources are trying to weave.

Bollea's lawyer (paid for by Thiel, and who should be disbarred for his clear violation of basic legal ethical standards) made multiple trial decisions that punished Gawker at Bollea's expense.

Besides, the specific case is a red herring -- Thiel simply got very lucky that one of the many lawsuits he was secretly funding against Gawker was so cut-and-dry. Had he not gotten that dropped in his lap, he would have continued funding other secret nuisance lawsuits until he was able to find something else with a substantial judgement (and then would have done what he did in this case -- announce that it was him in order to produce a chilling effect on other news organizations reporting negatively about his investments). You can't be simultaneously in favor of the legality of what Thiel did and against this: http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vander...

>that punished Gawker at Bollea's expense

That's for Bollea himself to decide, not us. Frankly, I see no evidence presented that he had any objection to the choices his attorney made.

> You can't be simultaneously in favor of the legality of what Thiel did and against this: http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vander...

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I can and rather easily, at that. Why? Because I can distinguish between cases that clearly have merit and cases that clearly don't.

This "underlying narrative" people are trying to build, as I said, is just an outright non-starter.

Thiel's intent was to bankrupt Gawker by secretly funding many cases such as the Mother Jones example. Again, he got lucky with the Bollea case (not only in that it was quite egregious, but that it provided an excellent framework to recruit unwitting members of the public to his defense by exploiting our cognitive tendency to break conflict into false dichotomies -- being anti-Gawker doesn't mean I'm pro-Thiel).

Are you in favor of or against someone secretly funding multiple lawsuits in order to destroy a company producing negative press about their investment vehicles? That's the question that actually matters.

>Are you in favor of or against someone secretly funding multiple lawsuits in order to destroy a company producing negative press about their investment vehicles?

Do the lawsuits have merit or not? If they do, the source of funding or motivation or secrecy is clearly irrelevant.

The reason it's awful isn't because they got punished for doing something wrong. It's that they'd done that stuff and more before and got away with it. Because only someone with Thiel-style money could make it stick.

So yeah, they were awful and yeah they deserved to be put out of business but _also_ they only went out of business because they annoyed the wrong guy.

In a better world, Thiel's intervention wouldn't have made a difference, but it did.

> By being sued for invading someone's privacy?

The problem is businesses and politicians also argue they have a right to privacy.

If Privacy > Free Speech, you end up with a situation where revealing abuses by such people becomes extremely risky and expensive.

Just because Gawker and Nick Denton are pieces of shit doesn't make the precedent any less worrying.