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by b15h0p 3596 days ago
Even the menu is still there if you click on the window icon in the upper left corner of the window (or the space where it would have been).

Interesting tidbit: There is even a context menu on scroll bars - no idea who would use this, but it is there.
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kayamon 3596 days ago
Heh, yeah the context menu on the scroll bars is my go-to tell to discover whether it's a real scroll bar widget or an imitation one. (Gotta write an article on that too one day)
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b15h0p 3596 days ago
Yeah, I like that too. Makes you think twice about re-implementing widgets because of the insane amount of functionality that is tied even to the simplest widgets and still invisible.

Think of how hard it would be to re-implement a dropdown, for instance: You would need to implement keyboard navigation (arrow keys), jump-to-entry (using the letter-keys), srolling with the mouse wheel, flipping through entries while the dropdown menu is closed and probably a thousand other things that I never used but some people do.

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peteri 3596 days ago
I did do this back in the VB5 days and it was a proper pain. From memory I couldn't get the listbox window to draw outside of it's hosting window (needed for controls at the bottom of a window) and allow moving of the hosting window at the same time.

In the end I think I cheated and drew the list box on the parent with an option to go up or down depending on it's relative position.

Certainly was complicated.

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Senji 3595 days ago
Not really a cheat. Context menus already do that. Try opening a context menu near the bottom of your browser window.
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Senji 3595 days ago
Now imagine a "combobox".
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MagnumOpus 3596 days ago
>context menu on scroll bars - no idea who would use this

It is for accessibility. Alternative input methods, like emulating the mouse by keyboard for instance, might not have mouse-drag functionality, but will have a right-click function.

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aidos 3596 days ago
Is the menu still there on all the apps? So the icon is missing, but the menu opens up? That's brilliant. Haven't used Windows for a long time but every time I do I'm still amazed to find that close behaviour still works.

The link I posted above links to another one with more historical context. I'd never clicked that the icon was meant to look like a space bar.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/jensenh/2006/06/08/you-wind...

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Senji 3595 days ago
Not in firefox it seems, but it's pretty neat.
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