[antisthenes]

75k for 300 range is nothing.

Degradation is directly proportional to capacity and early model electric vehicles start seeing noticeable degradation after about 600 full range charge cycles as a rule of thumb (probably improved by 20-30% since then).

That's why you see a TON of stories about degradation on Nissan Leaves (60084 = 50,400 miles, easily doable in 2-3 years of heavy commuting) and almost none for Teslas (600 280 = 168,000).

As you can see, a person would have to drive almost 21,000/year, which most people don't and by that point you'd be outside the warranty period (unless I misread the warranty)

[outworlder]

> That's why you see a TON of stories about degradation on Nissan Leaves

Mind you, you need to remove the 2011 Nissan "Leaves" from the dataset, they had bad chemistry that didn't survive much on hot climates. New batteries are better.

[dsfyu404ed]

Hot climates? Like what? Atlanta (where tons of leaves were sold because of local tax rebates IIRC) is definitely well within the normal range for North America. Not a lot of leaf owners in the Southwest (big commuting distances).

Saying they didn't survive hot climates is kind of misleading. "The warm range of normal" is more accurate.