[CaptSpify]

IME that comes with: Sure, the new tool looks cool, but is it battle-tested? How many tools end up being relied on heavily while they're still in beta? And does it solve any of our current problems? or is it just neat?

As a grumpy SA, I see way too many people try to push for new tools because they "seem cool", instead of "Do they solve a problem we have?"

[6DM]

Personally I prefer to wait until technology is battle tested before adopting. New technologies are for side projects imo. If I had to categorize myself I would say early-late majority on this graph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations#/medi...)

Things we consider industry standard though, why should you need to fight for it? An example I can think of, dependency injection. Ideally you can test your software better and realease more reliable builds. Believe it or not I do come across companies that still are not aware of these concepts. Introducing it would be possible without breaking anything because you can continue instantiating services the old fashioned way.

With newish stuff that's still changing, if it won't impact production (i.e., tooling) I'm up for adopting it earlier than usual.

One example I can think of is javascript bundling and packaging. This would not impact production, but will have a pretty big impact on feature integration between team members and rate of completion. In MVC you need to hand type up the path of all your JS files and stick them into bundles. Not bad, not great either. Instead you could take your flavor of package management and have that bundle and minify your js files for you automatically.

I've been around government contracting and when you see problems that come up a lot, that we have industry standard solutions too, it's hard not to feel frustrated. I get where you're coming from though, just sharing my experience :)

[lj3]

It took me years to realize the reason programmers do this is because the tools that "seem cool" make their lives easier at the expense of everything else. This is where the popular traits of "laziness and hubris" become a liability instead of an asset.

More programmers need to embrace the suck.

[CaptSpify]

> tools that "seem cool" make their lives easier at the expense of everything else.

I'd argue the opposite. Instead of spending time reflecting on how cool and useful their code is, or hardening it up, devs spend too much time reinventing the wheel. All this work to learn the next new fad is killing productivity.

[lj3]

Easier might not be the right word. 'tools that allow them to be lazier' might be more accurate. Gluing together pieces somebody else wrote and trying to get them all to work with as little effort as possible and are surprised when it doesn't work well.

> devs spend too much time reinventing the wheel

I'd argue the opposite. They spend too much time not reinventing the wheel. They strap factory made bicycle wheels onto a car and are surprised when the wheels break. They could benefit from spending more time trying to make a better wheel.

[TeMPOraL]

Or learn about better wheels designed by smart people back in the 60s and 70s, when no one had the capability to just keep sticking wheels onto cars to see what works - so they had to rely on thinking and solid engineering practices instead.

[lj3]

Precisely why I've started buying technical books from ages past. I'm working my way through Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs by Niklaus Wirth, Constructing user interfaces with statecharts by Ian Horrocks and Practical UML Statecharts in C/C++, Event-Driven Programming for Embedded Systems. The last one has been especially enlightening.

Do you have any suggestions for which 'better wheels' people should be looking at?

[TeMPOraL]

SICP is a classic I can highly recommend. It made me aware of just how much the "new, smart" approaches to organizing code that people like to attribute to their favourite programming model (like "OOP is best because classes and inheritance means modularity") are actually rehashing of obvious and general ideas known very well in the past.

I generally like reading on anything Lisp-related, as this family of languages is still pretty much direct heritage of the golden ages.

The stuff done by Alan Kay, et al. over at PARC is also quite insightful.