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by forgotpwtomain 3599 days ago
> I'm quite disappointed by it, and I was hoping to push our company to move over the XPS line.

I've had much worse luck (see my post elsewhere in this thread) when trying an XPS, in the end I ended up getting a new Thinkpad (I don't think they are great but they definitely seem to be more consistent).

> The keyboard was a big issue, and I see that XPS does not realize how important it is. In fairness, the X1 keyboard is not too bad, except for the awful placement of the Home/End keys.

I found that the keyboards actually got worse from gen1 to gen3 (the plastic feels cheaper, more flimsy) -- I'm really unclear why companies make $1500-2000 laptops and than save $10-15 on the keyboards ( Apple is the only company that doesn't seem to fuck up like this ). I will say I do greatly prefer the thinkpad trackpad buttons to tapping and that's something that always bothered me on a MBP as well.

> Although opening an X1 is not hard, there's not much you can swap without replacing the entire laptop.

The T460S is better at this (you can swap the Ram / SSD) - on the minus side I think the screen quality is slightly worse.

> On linux I still have problems with the intel drivers with the carbon. The "old" drivers work, but the modesetting drivers cause "twitching" of the image especially on the second external output. Incredibly annoying to the point that I'm still using the legacy one. This is a classic issue with intel, and unfortunately it's the same for any laptop nowdays.

Which kernel are you running? I'm running 4.6.4 and I think it should be fixed in 4.6.X.

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I'm also running 4.6.4 (arch). This particular issue was incredibly bad when we got the first models (tearing at the mouse position) and progressively improved, but it's still not fixed.

Note that the modesetting drivers also incur in several performance hits compared to the regular xorg-video-intel. For instance, I can see libreoffice dialogs REPAINT, while inkscape works at 1/4 of the refresh speed.

This is not lenovo specific though. Intel drivers typically lag 1-2 years behind current models at the time you can consider them "bug free enough". This was true for any laptop I've been using the last 10 years.

I cannot fathom how broken the skylake driver is right now.