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by s_kilk 3599 days ago
>> but the problem is that this laptop can wake up randomly and if it's in your bag it can overheat. And there is no way to tell if it's on.

Deal-breaker, right there. I had a hard enough time with a previous dell/ubuntu combo pulling this trick and roasting itself alive in my bag, and I've no desire to repeat.

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Yep - I had exactly the same thing happen to me.

Hot summer's day, arrive at a customer meeting. My previously fully charged Dell laptop has been running since I was on the hot and stuffy underground whilst shoved in to its laptop bag. It's now a nuclear ball of fire, with just 15% battery left and how it didn't suffer a complete meltdown is a strong testament to the quality of the hardware.

This happened a bunch of times. Add to this random BSODs, keyboards that would break far too easily, the sheer weight of the thing and more inconveniences I'm surprised I stuck with it for as long as I did.

5 years ago I switched to Apple MacBooks and will never go back.

ive hd my macbook do that too.. opened up the bag it was running HOT HOT HOT. still works so im happy
It also happens on Windows 10 on my XPS 13. I've been blaming Microsoft for it but I'm not too sure if Dell is involved now.
My MacBook does this all the time when using Parallels. That, or it hard-crashes.
I had the same problem with my trusty eeepc running debian wheezy. It got fixed at some point though since it hasn't happened in years.
Anecdata - I use Ubuntu 16.04 on an XPS 13. This has never happened to me.
Just another sample-of-1 statistics: XPS 13 9333 owner here, with Windows 10, never had that issue. I've seen it on Windows 7 on my Dell XPS 8500 desktop PC though - and I had gone through all events and devices and disabled any settings that might wake up the system for any reason.
Happens on Lenovo Yoga 15 as well. Or at least happened, haven't had the problem since last reinstall.
Yoga 2 pro as well. Was common with Ubuntu 15, now it is rare with Ubuntu 16. I used to think this was a straight up Linux / Ubuntu bug, but seeing the anecdotes here for the other major OSs', and for other laptops, makes me think that all laptops have one crazy bad chip that controls power and cooling. Is that the BIOS' job?
Mine is Windows, so yes, not only Ubuntu.

I got my screen replaced after hot air had miscolored the part right above the taskbar.

This is a Windows 10 problem. I've got an HP ZBook G2 15 and a ThinkPad T440s and it happens to both machines.
I've got a T530 and this does not happen. I uninstalled quite a bit (but not all) of Lenovo crap, though.
I've killed a Thinkpad's HDD this way, it started in my bag and overheated in the time I got to work.
All laptops have that issue, I have it on Asus Zenbook and Lenovo Thinkpad (had it on Win8, also present on Win10).

Luckily, it's easy to disable all wake up events in Windows. But for average user this is a deal-breaker!

Had this happen on a HP. It drained the battery to the point it would no longer charge. And when I went to HP about this support said the battery was a consumable and not covered under warranty.
i think the main reason most of the windows laptops wakeup while in sleep mode is they have wake on network activity checked in the power settings. i had a toshiba and an msi that did that but stopped when i changed the settings