[narrowrail]

You people need to stop saying this kind of stuff. I will bet you $1k on longbets.org that we do not have fully autonomous vehicles operating on public streets in 9 years (i.e. 2025). These types of statements are confusing the non-technical 'tech press' and they are misinforming the public.

[ufmace]

The way you worded it, I'd say we have that already: See Google's relatively public self-driving car project, already logging lots of fully autonomous miles on public streets https://youtu.be/bDOnn0-4Nq8

I do think it'll be more like 50 years to get self-driving cars being sold to the general public that can drive autonomously anywhere though.

[narrowrail]

"fully autonomous" requires no human intervention method, IMO. Google's cars have steering wheels. The gist of what I am trying to communicate is that serious disruption to the status quo will not happen from autonomous cars in my lifetime (one can quibble with specifics and lawyer the discussion at will).

[ufmace]

Well they have already designed a special self-driving car model from the ground up that has no provision for a steering wheel at all.

[narrowrail]

Did they design it or are they operating this thing? I designed a time-travel machine, do you want a ride?

[ufmace]

Here's a youtube video of people being driven around in it https://youtu.be/CqSDWoAhvLU

Here's another youtube of it driving around on city streets https://youtu.be/_qE5VzuYFPU