[zokier]

Yeah, European keyboard layouts are annoying like that. Too bad that it seems unlikely that they would ever change even if there is some talk in France that they want to reform their keyboard: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/france-says-azert...

There was a project in Finland to reform keyboard layout ("Kotoistus"), only thing they managed to do is to add more dead-key accents and make the keyboard even more annoying to technical users. In all their great wisdom they decided to add non-breaking space character to altgr-spacebar key combination. In isolation that might seem like a good idea, but when also | character required the use of altgr-modifier it was a mess: working with the command line, you tend to have stuff like ... | grep foo. Soon enough there were plenty of users wondering why bash complains that grep is not found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/218637

Personally, I have abandoned national keyboard layout and adapted US layout instead. Makes both programming and general use much more comfortable. Its amazing how much less I need to use modifier keys now, especially the painful altgr.

[erelde]

The French project would be even worse for us French coders.

Symbols used for code would be hidden behind several layers like altgr combinations. While, imo, archaic symbols (ÇÀÉÈàçê, etc) would be on the first layer.

I'm planning on doing the same as parent, using the US layout, but I can't change my keyboard at work, and although I can type in qwerty, I don't know all the layers like I do azerty, so I can't just type without looking.

[slang800]

You can't change your keyboard at work? That's odd... Where do you work?

[erelde]

Large org, windows, non admin rights. Don't have the rights to plug non approved usb devices.

I can't even use another text editor than the one I have. All those 'vim vs emacs' war-jokes make me laugh. What I wouldn't give to use vim...

I can change the software layout, but as I said, I don't know enough the sublayers of the qwerty layout to be able to type without looking.

[Zekio]

I've done the same, to get rid of having 3 characters on the number keys and get access to all the hotkeys.

While also not having keyboard layout change, when SSHing to a server and not being able to make a slash