[rafaelm]

Yes that's the story as told by the government and the state funded media like Telesur, your source.

They wouldn't say anything about how the food imports are controlled by the military and the government and how they've stolen more than $50 billion, as admitted by Chavez's former economic minister.

[moo]

A lot more sources than Telesur but you have to look beyond Western news media. I hope the Venezuelan military does take control away from the US backed gusanos who are withholding food from the poor in an economic war to sabotage the Bolivarian Revolution. US orchestrated attacks can also be seen with the USAID fake 'Twitter' in Cuba to destabilize the government. ABC News even reported Peace Corps volunteers and a Fulbright scholar were asked by a U.S. Embassy official in Bolivia "to basically spy" on Cubans and Venezuelans in the country, according to the Peace Corps personnel and the Fulbright scholar involved. US interests can be seen with Brazilian vassel elites tied to US, orchestrating the impeachment of Brazil's Dilma Rousseff after NSA spied on Rousseff and discounting the 54 million-plus Brazilians who reelected her. You can see how the West respects Latin America with how Bolivia's Evo Morales had his government plane force landed and he was detained in Vienna. You can also look at how Venezuela's President Chavez, Honduras' President Zelaya, or Haiti's President Aristide were all kidnapped with Washington's blessings. Former covert agent John Stockwell says U.S. has killed 6 million in covert operations in the Third World. All this information does not come out of Telesur, and if you were half honest you would see a pattern here.

[rafaelm]

Why doesn't telesur say anything about the massive corruption of the government officials that have dilapidated more than $50billion dollars as admitted by chavista ex-ministers? Or the fact that most of the former productive lands and industries that were confiscated by Chavez are now broke and don't produce anything?

Look for the cases of Agroisleña, Fama de América, Sidor,the sugar factories all in govt hands, the formerly productive lands in Sur del Lago and a looong line of etceteras. Formerly productive industries that Chavez confiscated, put under supervision of corrupt military command that now don't produce anything.

Look for all the corruption in CADIVI, the agency in charge of the currency exchange that gave out billions of dollars to the military and their buddies The thousands of tons of food imported by the government for PDVAL left to rot in the ports of the country because once the food was bought and imported it didn't matter if it actually got to the stores.

Seriously, it gets tiring when someone that does not have the tiniest idea of what is actually going on in the country brings out the tired old argument that everything is the USA's fault.

[moo]

You want the return of Venezuela to its former status as oil colony and wholly owned subsidiary of the United States. Tired argument? The 4 million dead in Middle East is the fault of the US and the Western allies. One need only look at the conspicuous reappearance of goods in the immediate aftermath of the right wing Unity Roundtable (MUD) victory in the December 2015 elections to see how connected the food supply problems are with political agendas. The oil collapse is an orchestrated assault on oil-producing nations targeted by the US.

[rafaelm]

See, this is where it's evident that you have no clue what you are talking about. There was no reappearance of goods after the MUD won! The government has actually been making fun of this because some of the MUD candidates said they would help the goods reappear once elected.

The shortage situation has been constant and getting worse since last year. I actually live here! I'm not reading about this from some government funded propaganda machine from the comfort of my fully stocked home.

You clearly have no more arguments beyond they tired old "everything us the US fault". I already gave you several examples of the government corruption that led us to this situation and you STILL come back and tell me about the middle east, oil colonies, how it's all a plot by the US, etc?

I should go to the food lines tomorrow and try to explain that to people. I bet it would go down really well with everyone there!

[moo]

Quit your crocodile tears, gusano!

[rafaelm]

Haha your superior argumentative powers sure got me there!

Please, next time try to be better informed before making a fool of yourself.

I understand that the US has a shitty foreign policy, but that doesn't make every "antiimperialist" government the good guys. The world is not black and white.