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by dilemma 3613 days ago
>founding spacex and tesla only make sense if there was some genuine desire to make the world a better place.

You're forgetting ego. Really, your last paragraph shows you're a true believer and it's not helping the discussion.
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bronz 3613 days ago
i am passionate about evs. i have been for a long time -- before tesla and the model s. i watched electric vehicles get laughed off the stage every time they made an appearance in the media. i watched the tesla death countdown. i watched the tesla roadster get railed on top gear. at every turn it seemed as though there was a conspiracy to keep evs from ever happening. i watched the new york times drive a model s in circles in a frozen parking lot to try and make it look like the battery ran out. they didnt realize tesla was logging all of that.

so yeah, i kind of have a chip on my shoulder. its only because the success that electric vehicles are currently experiencing came after a long, tooth and nail fight led jointly by tesla and electric vehicle enthusiasts and absolutely nobody else. tesla and by extension elon musk deserve huge credit for what they have accomplished because in the end this is a victory for everyone.

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boznz 3613 days ago
I think most of HN are true believers.

Seriously in a world run by bean counters and MBA's where the only excitement is Donald Trumps next dick move or how thin the next iPhone is going to be how can you not like what this guys trying to achieve.

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sangnoir 3613 days ago
> Seriously in a world run by bean counters and MBA's where the only excitement is Donald Trumps next dick move or how thin the next iPhone is going to be how can you not like what this guys trying to achieve.

I have noticed some interesting parallels between some Donald Trump supporters on a certain subreddit[0] and some HNer regarding Musk (example comments up top): they both assume their hero/idol is working on an inscrutable genius masterplan which us mere mortals will retroactively understand one glorious day in the future. According to the true believers, Trump is allegedly playing 4D political chess and Musk intends to upgrade humanity to a Type II civilization... Both groups could very well be correct, but I'm cynical given the supporting evidence I currently have access to.

1. /r/the_donald - I am a non-American lefty trying to understand wtf is going on. I also like having my assumptions challenged

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