[forgetsusername]

>i get so mad at people who are constantly detracting from tesla or evs in general. it is so ironic that the one company that isnt trying to fuck people over

Maybe you should care less about the fact that people like a consumer product company less than you? And the idea that this is the "one company" not trying to fuck people over is down right ludicrous.

[erikpukinskis]

It's not really about how much someone likes a product. It's about the widescale famine, extinction and war on our doorstep and whether we as a planet can do anything to confine warming to a manageable rate.

Manageable being the opposite of out-of-control.