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by alt2319 3617 days ago
> I'd be very curious to hear what went on there on the people side of things.

It's important to study that in these cases. I was convicted in a similar case and am actually a chapter in a CERT book, but they never reached out to me for my input, so they're completely oblivious to my motives and missing key facts about the case. I'd write more about it or speak at conferences but I've been able to bury that past and move on. Maybe some day.

I think he had a similar case to mine where he felt he was stuck in a situation with his manager(s) and felt like he had no recourse. HR should be involved in employee reviews and should provide a way for the employee to give feedback on his own review.

Another aspect of it is education about the law. I see case after case where the defendant had no idea he could face federal charges at all, much less one that can result in such stiff penalties. (The penalties he was facing were much, much worse if he had been tried and convicted rather than taking this plea deal.) That could easily be part of any degree program and/or employee orientation.

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> I think he had a similar case to mine where he felt he was stuck in a situation with his manager(s) and felt like he had no recourse.

Still no excuse to take down 90% of a company's connectivity.

If a company is bringing in child labor in dangerous factories, and employing prostitutes to gratify the upper management, while you're being whipped daily, would that, maybe be an excuse?

I know it's a really out there example, but there are times where outright rebellion, even destructively, is morally acceptable. I don't know the specifics of this example, however.

That's a pretty big strawman. A better recourse would be to whistle blow in that scenario. Though clearly that carries a great deal of personal risk too.

Destroying a company damages all of that companies customers and employees as well. The difference between a surgical strike of a "bad guy" and carpet bombing a country.

And if the government is complicit, and acting against its' own laws? That isn't such a strawman.

Also, blowing the whistle can mean many things... in this case, it was a temporary disruption, not much different than an organized strike would be.

Corrupt stuff in third world countries do not get entire chapters in CERT books - that's where things like these are expected to happen. Over and over again.
The NSA spying incident that Snowden revealed wasn't a third world country. Then again, he didn't take down the NSA's routers or spying aparatus on the way out either.
> HR should be involved in employee reviews and should provide a way for the employee to give feedback on his own review.

One issue I see here is that HR usually sides with management and tend to label you as a troublemaker whenever you disagree with something or someone. HR should always be neutral and they are usually far from it.

You should let it out someday and share it with the community!
I'd love to hear your story.
Don't leave us hanging; I'm really curious to hear what your side of the story was now!