[alva]

This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now.

One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.

[eternalban]

They are practically proactively announcing that they intend to invalidate the election results. Coupled with previously announced NATO's position regarding cyber warfare, we are looking at potential nuclear war.

Given that Russians blinked in the missile crisis and Yugoslavia, the establishment appears to think Russians will blink yet again.

But China will not. They crossed the Yalu river in the Korean war and they will not wait until their turn comes. They are not stupid.

The power elite are entirely out of control, drunk with power.

[alva]

Unfortunately I am discovering lots of those in tech VC are complicit with the political power elite. Many are pushing the Russia meme on twitter/FB , despite the flimsy evidence and obvious push as a political strategy. I do not think many of them actually believe what they are saying. Terrifying.

[r00fus]

You don't get promoted past a certain point in many large US corporations if you don't support the power structure. Thanks to facebook trackers and and other such browser analytics, it's entirely possible for most HR departments to easily fingerprint you (ostensibly to ensure you're not a threat - e.g. militant in sheep's clothing or other loose cannon).

[zghst]

As do I. My stomach has been churning in disgust seeing the collusion big money media and politicians. This latest attempt to drum up the Russian boogeyman is incredibly laughable, especially since they laughed it off four years ago. Yes Russia is corrupt, shitty regime, but they can't be culpable for every U.S. politician's failures and dirty deeds (where the inverse happens in the Russia), we've become so much like our so called "enemies", obeying and apologizing to top party members, publishing stories that only favor our dear leaders, etc.

[andreiw]

Russia is no more of a "corrupt shitty regime" than your own. So maybe, just maybe, you should focus on constructive criticism of your own country instead of offending others, hmmm? After more than 60 years of anti-Russian propaganda I am not quite surprised that most Americans take every opportunity to jab at or feel somehow morally or otherwise superior to Russia and Russians, yet you would be surprised just how opposite and rather humane most Russians think of Americans and the States... and not because of some God given right of American righteousness and superiority, or some Russian inferiority complex.

So cut it with the anti-Russian nonsense.

[Dr_tldr]

Some of us are actually quite aware of what's going on in Russia. It's true that the US is also very corrupt, and its populace is easily led into believing it has enemies everywhere, but there are qualitative differences, here are a few:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky

http://imrussia.org/en/analysis/nation/2224-a-new-emigration...

The most substantive critics of Putin tend to reside in Russia, and they tend to have the most decisive evidence of corruption, while Americans' negative perceptions of Russia do tend to be based in ignorance. So that point is true, but saying that A is mistaken about why B is bad does not mean that B is actually great, nor does it follow that if A is bad, B isn't.

[zghst]

America has better bread and circuses

[ommunist]

only for those with not expensive tastes

[jrs235]

>This latest attempt to drum up the Russian boogeyman is incredibly laughable

I'd argue it's scary. In the interview below with Eric Holder the interviewer says something about Russia being an adversary... rightfully so or not, that is exactly the sound bites that Putin wants and needs inside Russia to keep beating the drum that the U.S. and the world are out to get them. You just "proved" what Putin has been saying inside of Russia. Exactly what we don't need.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-holder-donald-trump-russia-0...

[xlm1717]

It is getting ridiculous. They're blaming the Russian boogeyeman for everything now. I think it was telling when Leon Panetta got told "no more war" when he spoke at the DNC. The people aren't interested in fighting Russia, we have nothing to gain over there.