[hkmurakami]

I also feel for the junior developers being minted in droves from the various bootcamps across the country, but particularly in the SF Bay Area. Since we have it the hottest here, the pain will be the most acute as well when the downturn finally arrives in full force. Those who believed in the narrative that a 10 week developer bootcamp was the ticket to a good job in the "new era" will be in for a rude awakening. It'll be akin to the Law School false promises (though not nearly as severe with respect to time and financial commitment and loss).

I hope they have made contingency plans, or have pursued robustness in their skills.

[argonaut]

The downturn is in startups. I see these bootcamps graduates being snapped up by large corporations all the time. Including lots of companies that are not as sexy as the big Silicon Valley firms, yet still desperate for tech talent.

[chaostheory]

Sure not having positions open will suck, but it's not like their knowledge is useless. If you can't find a good company that'll hire you... just make one yourself.

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[danielhooper]

What about all the tens of thousands of students that graduate with CS or related degrees every year?

[kstrauser]

They seem to fare much better, at least that I've seen. I've been in places that've hired freshly minted BS/CSes, but I'm only aware of hiring one bootcamp grad. She was exceptionally brilliant and motivated, and did the bootcamp to round out her otherwise excellent skillset.

I contrast that with some I've seen turned away for being able to make a Rails site, for instance, but with little or no knowledge of CS fundamentals. They too might have been brilliant and motivated, but they didn't come with the underlying knowledge they'd need to succeed in the roles we had available.

Bootcamps seem to teach tech, not theory. That's fine if you're hiring for that specific tech! My employers have been more interested in broad theory, though.

[aphextron]

CS is essentially an engineering degree. You can retrain into practically any technical field with that foundation of math and science. Bootcamp grads wont be so lucky.

[NotSammyHagar]

Seattle has thousands of jobs. Please come fill some of them.

[ben_jones]

I would feel for them if their weren't tens of thousands of C.S. graduates who payed north of $80,000 and four years of their lives for the privilege of entering the future job market. We need more STEM right?!

[johncolanduoni]

To be fair, not getting a CS degree (even if you want to code) has been fairly popular advice for a while now.

[ben_jones]

Try making this argument on a high school or college campus.

[Retra]

If that's all they're getting out of their education, then they've squandered it.