[tangent128]

It appears that kdbus is being reworked into BUS1[0]; the new API looks a lot less warty.

[0] http://www.bus1.org/bus1.html

[qwertyuiop924]

That looks... better, but still ugly. I'd rather the whole thing was killed.

[digi_owl]

Won't happen, as systemd relies on dbus too much (to the point that it may well panic the kernel by shutting down if dbus goes belly up).

I do believe that right now you basically have to start dbus using initramfs so that it is ready for use by the time the kernel starts up systemd.

Franky the number of things that they cram into initramfs on a systemd based distro is nauseating.