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by saosebastiao 3627 days ago
In terms of security, that is probably exactly correct (I'm a complete security novice FWIW). Way too high of an attack surface area. That being said, as soon as you get into microcontroller territory, you turn it into a niche thing that makes it inaccessible to most. What are the chances of finding talent that can write user-facing code that runs bug free on microcontrollers while simultaneously writing/proving the crypto? Maybe that talent is more common than I suspect, but I certainly haven't seen it. I would be happy with rust/ocaml on a unikernel or rump kernel though :)
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vonmoltke 3627 days ago
Why does dropping the OS mean you have to run on microcontrollers and write everything from scratch? All it means is your software needs to incorporate the OS functions that it needs for interacting with the hardware. You can still use any hardware platform you want and any third-party libraries available for said platform.
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di4na 3626 days ago
Which is exactly what micro controllers programming is.

I worked and still do some work for embedded programming. If you never did it before : OS make life super super easy. Really.

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vonmoltke 3626 days ago
Well, yeah, most microcontrollers require bare-metal programming. That's not my point. My point is any device can be developed for that way, and that going OS-less does not mean having to write everything from scratch. After all, that's what the OS is: a bare-metal application that functions as middleware (amongst other things) for the hardware platform.

Also, I know having an OS makes it easy. If you have full control over the hardware platform and environment, and user interaction with the system is limited to a relatively small set of UI objects, you shouldn't need a full OS. Something bare-bones like DOS or FreeRTOS should be fine. Even on the box I worked on that used RHEL we stripped almost everything out. I'm still not sure why they decided to go with RHEL as the base, considering the amount of work that went into customizing it.

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nickparker 3627 days ago
Microcontroller stuff isn't necessarily inaccessible. You can target extremely barebones platforms with Rust, and it goes without saying that C runs almost anywhere.

The point is to have absolute bare-minimum technology. There's no user-facing code to write, it should really be as simple as: - A function that encrypts an int between 0 and N, perhaps in homomorphic fashion - N-1 buttons (as in, mechanical contacts) that each trigger a subroutine "Encrypt the number X and broadcast it to whoever is tabulating and/or auditing the vote"

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