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by stephengillie 3627 days ago
What if someone else was offering $10,000 for Facebook bugs, so they could exploit them? This bug could probably result in more than $5,000 in damages to the Facebook brand.
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But someone isn't. That's the point. These bugs don't go for $10k on the black market.
Never mind the fact that it does matter to a lot of people whether they are committing a crime. Not everyone is a capitalist sociopath.

If someone without a conscience wanted to maximize their profit, they'd probably just sell to both sides.

That's odd considering the potential monetary damage of such bugs can far exceed $10k.
One can smash a car up with a sledgehammer. Is the value of a sledgehammer equal to the value of a car?
>Is the value of a sledgehammer equal to the value of a car?

My previous post was poorly worded; I didn't mean to imply equality.

To use your analogy, valuing a serious vulnerability on a platform that has 1.65B users in the $5-10k range is tantamount to selling a 30lb sledge hammer for a dollar.

But what if producing a sledgehammer only cost 50 cents? Then people would sell sledgehammers for a dollar or less.
Rather than torture this analogy further:

Obviously exploit pricing is generally efficient and adheres to free market principles. That said, it's hypothetically possible that an exploit against a large tech company could sell for far more if the circumstances are right, considering the price to damage ratio is so skewed in addition to the unique nature of each exploit.

Therefore, large tech companies don't really have much to lose by paying far more than they currently do on bounties.

Granted, eliminating what's largely a hypothetical edge case is not the primary benefit to paying higher; incentivizing far more white hat researchers is.

Stealing this.
Me too. It really gets straight to the point.
The problem with valuing bugs at their damage potential is that the total damage potential of all bugs in any given product is almost certainly magnitudes greater than the total value of the product itself.
People always say this but where would you go to find such a buyer? If you could find someone who would purchase it from you, would you process to then sell it to them?

If you can't find a buyer and/or would most likely be unwilling to commit a crime, it's a moot point.