[digi_owl]

May give Vivaldi a look. Made by many of the original Opera people.

https://vivaldi.com/

[dingdingdang]

But Vivaldi == "We use JavaScript and React to create the user interface with the help of Node.js and a long list of NPM modules. Vivaldi is the web built with the web.". Which again equals: do I really want to trust that browser knowing how NPM modules are basically the least secure thing ever?

[RubyPinch]

a) that wouldn't affect a build, assuming they cache their packages, which they probably would since that event

b) didn't they change their unpublishing policy after that event?

[ddevault]

Vivaldi is closed source.

[Mithaldu]

Not entirely: https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en

[ddevault]

That's just their chromium patches. You can't build vivaldi from that.

[Fej]

...why? That doesn't make any sense.

[JohnTHaller]

"Competitive advantage" most likely. They built their own HTML-based UI on top of Chromium. So, their browser engine is just Chrome/Chromium/Blink, not something unique. Vivaldi can't even sync your bookmarks between devices yet (at least the last time I checked).

[jacek]

Thanks, I will give it a try again, but the last time I didn't like the UI.

[Teksource]

The UI is great. But if you do not like it, customize it, either with massive CSS rewrites or the built inside customization options.

[jacek]

I just found this: https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...! (dev version). It allows full customization with CSS! That's great!

[CyberShadow]

A little-known fact, but you can customize the Firefox UI with CSS too: http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css

My Firefox currently looks like this: https://dump.thecybershadow.net/0177f0cecdf6ad3b65158858a210...

[hello_asdf]

Would you share your userchrome.css file? Thanks.

[SturgeonsLaw]

Wow, that looks very cool. I'd also be interested in seeing the CSS behind that if you don't mind sharing?

[vasili111]

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...

[subie]

is this using electron?

[city41]

Doesn't look to be using Electron, as Vivaldi.app/Contents/Frameworks does not contain the Electron framework.

[zdkl]

Vivaldi is built on Chromium I believe