[selectron]

> Why would there be a reason black people would give cab drivers a harder time than other skin colors? There isn't any good reason.

This is clearly happening, based on the anecdote of cab drivers avoiding picking up black people as well as telling the OP he is the first black person who they had a positive experience with. Some stereotypes are based in reality, and it isn't racist to acknowledge this.

[x2398dh1]

The statement, "Some stereotypes are based in reality," is very ambiguous. Hard to falsify what you're saying there.

What the above parent wrote is, "there's no good reason for black people to give cab drivers a hard time." This implies that, given that there's not a good reason, it is not likely true.

So, what do you think the reason would be that black people would unanimously give this cab driver a hard time, except for this one guy? Based upon your above proposition, you may also want to explain why your explanation is not racist.

[selectron]

The some stereotypes are based in reality comment was meant to indicate that the fact is there are real differences between the average behaviors of different groups of people. So when shown clear evidence that groups behave differently, it isn't racist to point out that groups behave differently. It would be great if we could have a discussion about real differences in how groups of people act without being called racist.

I could definitely believe that black people are less likely to tip (or avoid paying altogether), as black people are poorer (on average). Black people are also much more likely to commit violent crime (on average). Note that cab drivers are likely to not be white (on average), at least in my experience. I did some research and it appears to be common for cab drivers to avoid picking up black passengers - this is pretty strong evidence that cab drivers have had negative experiences with black passengers.

It is racist for cab drivers to avoid picking up black passengers, but we shouldn't pretend that they don't have a reason for it.

[throwaway302498]

Might it be related to: https://www.google.com/#q=black+tipping

[giardini]

"Might it be related to: https://www.google.com/#q=black+tipping"

When I first read this I thought of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_tipping

and it took me a moment to recover!

(but read http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/cow-tipping-myth-or-bullcrap... for a refutation)

[x2398dh1]

Your slew of Google searches included this article:

http://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/chrpubs/88/

[selectron]

That has to be one of the worst abstracts I've ever read. I have no idea whether or not black people tip less having read the abstract.

[spraak]

Right... why use a throwaway if it's so true?