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by drzaiusapelord 3627 days ago
>gotten in their minds that RTG power is evil and dangerous

RTG usage is curbed due to NASA's low supply of plutonium-238. Until more is made it makes sense to design for solar powered systems. Also these are risky missions with high pricetags and erring on the side of caution using well known technologies isn't some big conspiracy. Its to avoid high-profile fails. We can try new and risky stuff in lower profile missions.

Heck, Curiosity was launched just a few years ago and has 11lbs of plutonium powering its RTG. I hardly see a conspiracy here. Also RTGs add weight and cost to projects. If you don't need one, you probably shouldn't be using one - even ignoring their rarity. Missions like Juno get significant weight savings using solar.

>I don't know if the cam is the problem or the transmission bandwidth,

The quality of the photo has to do with the distance from Jupiter. It has nothing to do with "power." This is a spacecraft, not a gaming PC. Yes more power would mean a higher bitrate, but the bitrate it uses is good enough for the mission.

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Juno is the first use of solar panels for a probe going that far out. You're right that they want to err on the side of caution using well-known technology to minimize risk. But you're missing the fact that RTGs are that well-known risk-minimized technology.

If solar panels saved weight, they would have been used on past missions like Galileo. Better solar panel technology will eventually shift the balance, but we're not there yet. Juno's panels weigh 340kg. Galileo's two RTGs, which produced about the same amount of power at Jupiter, weighed 57kg each.

I was referring to the new stirling engine RTG. According to wikipedia, NASA doesn't see it being used in a mission for another decade or two due to further testing and certification.

I wasn't aware solar was so heavy. Thanks for the info.

Inverse square is a harsh mistress. With only 4% the insolation at Jupiter as you get at Earth, you need a lot of panels.

Stirling RTGs sound very interesting but I'd be really worried about reliability. Definitely needs lots of work and testing to be confident in it!

bitrate it uses is good enough for the mission

The fact is, it could be better, and it really should. It's just silly to use Solar panels in the outer Solar System. This mission was dominated by politics and not science. I think that is a very real issue. Look at Curiosity, I think it's very clear that Rover is a massive upgrade over the preceding solar powered missions.

Well, Curiosity is huge and at that point needed a power source that wasn't solar. I really am not buying that these are political decisions. I think there's more emphasis on solar and less RTG in some scenarios because everyone is worried about the plutonium situation. No use wasting plutonium on missions that frankly just don't need it.