[alva]

I am so disappointed with our Western media and their complicity in shadowy anti-Russia propaganda. I know that Russia has many faults, but over the last few years we have been drip fed so many negative stories about Russia it is crazy. It really feels like we are being mentally prepared for a war that Russia (and most of our own public!) obviously does not want. I find this terrifying.

Look at the actions of the US and NATO in regard to military drills, troop reinforcement and the number of bases and missiles they have pointed at Russia. What is going on? In the UK every month or so we are given stories about Russian aggression and the existential threat they pose to the West. When you start digging into these stories, this stance is not justified in facts.

[thedevil]

You should read Russian news. Every single day, military propaganda in the headlines. Every single day, anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-US propaganda in the headlines.

Seriously, google a Russian news source. On their page, you'll see tanks and soldiers and fighter jets. And you'll see stories about how the west is evil and how the west is collapsing and hints that Russia needs a military buildup. And you might see a hint that eastern Europe is really Russian property "stolen" from Russia by NATO and that the anti-Russian sentiment is just the locals being "ungrateful" to Russia.

Now look at Google News. How much military do you see? How many stories about Russia? How many supporting military buildup? We care more about the Kardashians than we do about Putin.

This largely one-sided cold war has been going on for more than a decade.

[knowaveragejoe]

This person is not joking. Just scroll down this site for an example: http://russia-insider.com/en

Likewise, this is part of a larger, organized effort. For more information: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/rus...

[Gedrovits]

Maybe you've not read the western news, do you? Every piece of it filled with fear of Russian, people get thrown shit without any proofs of aggression or anything else. Just to put more NATO (read: US) bases in the world close to Russian borders.

If you think that this is "good", and Russia response is "bad", then you deserve everything what will happen because of that US politics.

[knowaveragejoe]

Did you willfully ignore what the person you're responding to said? Russian news is largely constructing an alternate reality where facts don't matter, and it appears it's even working on those outside the country to some extent if your comment is any indication. Go visit some Russian news sources and look around.

Here's an example of what's been going on:

>Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Nobody who lives in that part of the world today ever thought of themselves as living in Novorossiya and bearing allegiance to it—at least until several months ago. Now, Novorossiya is being imagined into being: Russian media are showing maps of its ‘geography,’ while Kremlin-backed politicians are writing its ‘history’ into school textbooks. There’s a flag and even a news agency (in English and Russian). There are several Twitter feeds. It’s like something out of a Borges story—except for the very real casualties of the war conducted in its name.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/rus...

[Gedrovits]

Ukraine is now US project, so don't even start the "annexing" shit. Because this is what did the US there.

[activis]

Ukraine is sovereign unitary nation. Only brainwashed with russian propaganda can say that some country or nation is no more then someones project and putting war on it means nothing.

It's about people and there will to be protected against crazy militant russians with stalin and putin in their minds.

[danielvf]

In the last few years, Russia has militarily invaded and annexed a section of a European country without even a pretex of legitimacy.

If I recall correctly, in the last year, the Russian government has said that it does not consider the Baltic counties independance to be legitimate.

Russia currently has troops involved in ongoing conflicts in Ukraine, Transitaria, Armenia, and Georgia.

To be concerned about Russia's intentions and abilities isn't fear mongering - you only have to look at the region in the last five years to see something very real happening.

[knowaveragejoe]

Don't forget Syria, though NATO is also involved there. Perhaps the only legitimate thing for either of them to be involved in.

[danielvf]

Yes, I left off Syria since it's not bording Russia, and because Syria would still be at war, Russia or no Russia.

[pmyjavec]

"In the last few years, Russia has militarily invaded and annexed a section of a European country without even a pretex of legitimacy."

Just depends on where you get your news really? You live in the US, it's ok to invade Syria, you live in Russia, it's ok to invade Ukraine.

Bottom line, all war is bad, let's not pretend it's justified in some cases!

[activis]

> What is going on?

Russia is putting war on world? We have biggest war in Europe in the last 25 years at the moment.

"Hybrid" army from Russia side which is so called "rebels" is stronger then army of any country in Europe and is actually killing people, bombing them and threatens everyone who can't protect himself. They have tanks, drones, buks, grads and more.

It's natural to mobilize people and try to protect sovereignty of your country isn't it?

Unfortunately all I can see from west side of globe is "green-peace" and hippie-like talking about peace and "talking" with russia. At the same time russian soldiers are killing hundreds people each day saying "they humiliated russian speaking people".

Wake up. Otherwise you'll experience war one way or another at home. And it is not propaganda. It is reality.

[geoka9]

You should watch some Russian TV. They've been preparing their people for a war every since the latter half of Putin's presidency. Have no doubt, it's a crazy world they are living in - basically a state-sponsored death cult.

[thedevil]

You beat me to the comment. I never worried about Russia growing up but then I started reading Russian news 10-15 years ago. It was Russian news, not western news, that made me realize that Russia is a threat.

[temp]

>In the UK every month or so we are given stories about Russian aggression

There's your answer - you're from the UK, so you've yet to experience its aggression. Other countries in Russia's neighbourhood have experienced it (Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, pre-1990 Hungary, Czechoslovakia, etc).

[joss82]

You are right, this smells very bad.

It looks like the hate propaganda they had just before the Balkan wars.

Very bad.

[Gedrovits]

All this "news" on HN should be banned along with the users who posted this. Leave the HN alone without your propaganda.