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by coldtea 3631 days ago
>Yet no matter where you look on this planet, no matter what the history of that location is, no matter how far back in history you go, the pattern (of violence such as murder and rape) stays the same - and even more so when those places are absent of the other races/groups.

I'm not sure I follow. What you mean by "the pattern (of violence such as murder and rape) stays the same"? The pattern of violence that black people do?

If so, that's absolutely wrong that it stays the same "no matter where you look on this planet, no matter what the history of that location is, no matter how far back in history you go".

In fact the amount of violence perpetuated by "white people", from the Crusades to the Holocaust, colonial wars, Cold War proxy wars, etc, and onwards, is so much higher, it's not even funny. And not even at their own house -- they pissed all over the world.

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What I was referring to can be summed up here - http://www.colorofcrime.com/2016/03/the-color-of-crime-2016-...

As far as medieval history and the other things you've mentioned go, every type of tribe on this planet has engaged in conquest and warfare. Some won. Some lost.

>What I was referring to can be summed up here

Well, checking for the crime rate between different races and attributing it to "race", instead of looking for the underlying causes, is the epitome of racism.

No different from 18th-19th century scholars, who concluded that blacks had inferior intelligence and reasoning skills etc, which they might indeed have as individual examples under study -- but those scholars also forgot to account for the fact that blacks didn't have the schooling and freedom to develop their personality, or that their original culture was stolen from them and they were abducted and had to operate in a hostile and foreign environment.

>As far as medieval history and the other things you've mentioned go, every type of tribe on this planet has engaged in conquest and warfare. Some won. Some lost.

And some caused endless bloodshed and massacre all over the world for profit and control, and those tended to be whites, from them, to the modern world and wars for oil and strategic interests...

Condemning the entire white population of this world into collective guilt and perpetual servitude for the actions of others is the epitome of racism.

> Well, checking for the crime rate between different races and attributing it to "race", instead of looking for the underlying causes, is the epitome of racism.

Unless that underlining cause is race. And there are quite a few studies backing this up, that did take into account all the typical factors (such as socioeconomic class).

I don't think we are ever going to agree, but I am curious of what you think a middle ground solution would be?...

I would gladly trade some type of payment (reparation) for absolute freedom of association (in all aspects of work and life).

> And some caused endless bloodshed and massacre all over the world for profit and control, and those tended to be whites, from them, to the modern world and wars for oil and strategic interests...

That is because white societies had the technological and strategic platform to do so... If you where to give that same platform to any African-country president/leader/warlord/etc, you would find the end result 10x worse.