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by jonsterling 3636 days ago
> Perhaps I'm oversensitive, but when people do this it usually strikes me as a presumptuous attempt to seize the last word in an argument.

Apologies---my intention was to signal that I wasn't interested in escalating the conversation or causing unpleasantness. I am completely happy to leave the last word to you.

Re "vandalism" and "being part of the community", thanks for your thoughts. I don't see myself at all as part of this community, but I do occasionally comment in it and on it. How is that possible? HN is a community of hackers and startup doers, and I once really was part of that (when I had the misfortune of being employed by a YC company); but a community is defined not just by collocation but by shared values & shared norms. Completely understandable if you'd rather I just buzzed off!

I understand the remainder of your comments, but I don't agree with them at all; to me, it is quite similar to the old bourgeois-liberal argument against antifa action, "you're just as bad as them!". In any case, it's completely understandable how & why you think that way, and I'm not interested in having a fight about it.

I will simply take the position that it is worse to arrogantly claim instant expertise than it is to (snarkily) criticize arrogance.

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Uh, well gosh. Did you have this comment below on your HN profile before or after the above conversation?

"[...] if you notice that I have been hell-banned, just let me know so I can delete my account from this shithole."

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jonsterling

I'm probably not the first person to suggest this to you, but I've found that what I get from a community/workplace/neighborhood/family has a lot to do with what I put into it.

> but I've found that what I get from a community/workplace/neighborhood/family has a lot to do with what I put into it.

Huh? The comment I am criticizing in this thread is not directed at me, and has nothing to do with me. Seems a bit of a stretch to think that I caused it by my attitude, etc. It's a general characteristic of the HN community, not caused or sparked at all by my criticism or engagement.