[aleem]

The real problem is a post IPO Facebook and its obligation to make money. Intimacy isn't profitable and there is no money in sharing personal photos. Publisher content has money but FB risks becoming a feed of useless updates and viral fluff. Within this space, text is a poor revenue generator but video has the highest CPM so we are seeing a major shift to video. FB's $50mn payouts to BuzzFeed and the like shows their commitment to viral junk. The watermelon live video gimmick isn't long term sustainable. FB is losing the plot it seems. There was a time when people used to post pics of things they ate and do FB checkins everywhere they went. It got people on board but other than on-boarding it proved to be just a fad.

I imagine the long term strategy will be to selectively optimize feeds based on user prefs. Not everyone values intimacy and some people prefer BuzzFeed cruft on a daily basis.

Unfortunately intimacy is hard to measure while sharing and content generation makes for easy KPIs for exec to focus on. Focusing on these will treat the symptoms but not the cause. In fact if sharing and recirculation is a KPI then FB will increasingly gravitate toward Twitter.

However this is all backwards. Monetizing the users is a piss poor business model. It fucks up the UX and alienates the users. FB should move to other avenues. Personalized search or ecommerce or premium SMB accounts should be the bigger focus.

Aside, their move into messaging reminds me of Microsoft's play when they leveraged Hotmail users into MSN and virtually overnight, uprooted ICQ/AOL.

[onewaystreet]

> Intimacy isn't profitable and there is no money in sharing personal photos.

Facebook makes money as long as users continue using its services. It doesn't matter much what they are doing as long as they keep coming back.

[dmix]

Exactly, sharing personal photos is insanely profitable if it keeps people on your website. You need to have a core value prop and just like TV it needs to be the primary user experience. Facebook is just readjusting for that after initially ramping up the money firehose.

It shows Facebook has a long term focus which you would expect from a public company.

[aleem]

We are in agreement. Intimacy is a loss leader.

[nl]

And then, back in reality, FB is minting money.

Advertising has been a huge business for the last 100 years (or more) and it is all going to move online.

The more people deploy adblockers, the more FB makes: (statistically) everyone on mobile access it (and other FB-owned brands) via the app, so they get the revenue of the money that would go to the open web.

[drusepth]

I don't use adblockers so I'm not 100% sure how they work, but don't mobile ones work at some system level to prevent other apps (e.g. Chrome) from showing ads? Why wouldn't they also target other popular apps with ads like Facebook?

[monorailz]

The kind of mobile ad blockers that work on the system level require root permissions afaiaa. Meanwhile, uBlock Origin is available on Firefox for Android, but being a Firefox extension, does not have the possibility of blocking traffic in other apps.

The amount of people who have rooted Android devices are probably far lower than the likely-also-low number of people using in-browser ad blockers on Android. For iOS devices, the number of people with jailbroken devices I would guess to be lower in relative percentage than on Android. I don't know if even just in-browser adblocking is possible on iOS at all without jailbreaking.

Anyway, point is, while ad blocking might be relatively wide-spread on the desktop among all people (why else would media bother to spend valuable developer time implementing ad blocker blockers?), in-app ad blocking probably is much less common and that's what fb benefits from.

[michaelbuckbee]

There are a variety of adblocking technologies. The spectrum goes from the simplest which just block domains, to ones which block substrings of URLs and DOM elements to ones actively stopping "please stop adblocking" notices.

In general AdBlocking works very well on the open internet with the browser of your choice. However, they're basically non-functional for things happening in-app over HTTPS connections. So, with the majority of FB mobile traffic happening over the dedicated FB app - they are largely immune to blocking AND have a much better set of demographic targeting features.

[nl]

No, they are all implemented as browser addons.