[rhizome]

It's only generous in dotcom terms. My mom took an early-retirement package from Kaiser Permanente as a bog-standard phone-room nurse: free no-copay health insurance for the rest of her and my dad's life. Free treatment, free prescriptions, free equipment. Free everything, for life.

[vecter]

That's a great deal for your mom, I'm glad she was able to get such an amazing deal.

On the other hand, Zenefits is an unprofitable startup with huge internal problems. Clearly, expecting them to provide such sorts of benefits would be beyond unreasonable.

[rhizome]

On the other hand, Zenefits is an unprofitable startup with huge internal problems.

That's the "dotcom" part, but yeah.

[vecter]

I strongly beg to differ. That's just every startup in general. The dotcom days were way more debaucherous and perverse than what's going on today with startups.

[rhizome]

Sorry, my mistake, I was using "dotcom" for the larger movement beyond the 2000 crash, including today. I was there, I can see the differences and similarities.

[traviscj]

What? Early retirement is a different ballgame than severance package. Why should zenefits be on the hook (or compared to) for the former?

[rhizome]

They way I see it, they are both push-outs of staff.

[pbreit]

That costs a health care company very little.

[rhizome]

You didn't know my dad! Suffice it to say they have definitely lost money on the deal.

[toomuchtodo]

That's incredible. Kudos for her taking that deal.