[steveax]

I live in Portland, OR, e have pretty good bike infrastructure. If the goal is to be seen, there are indeed other options. LED glow or area lights are probably more effective than the eye melters pointing towards the sky and much less hostile.

[frabbit]

> LED glow or area lights are probably more effective

Based on what?

[steveax]

Color other than white, large area illuminated, can be seen from any direction. All these contribute.