[kzhahou]

That's a very negative opinion of human nature, and a big reason I thought Wall-E was bullshit.

Humans enjoy their bodies. We play sports because it's fun and feels good. We enjoy the burn of a good run. We like to look in the mirror and see something vaguely attractive. We like to fuck. And we want to fuck people we find attractive.

Wall-E got it totally wrong.

[toomuchtodo]

> Humans enjoy their bodies. We play sports because it's fun and feels good. We enjoy the burn of a good run. We like to look in the mirror and see something vaguely attractive. We like to fuck. And we want to fuck people we find attractive.

Please excuse the low effort comment, but I've seen far more people who treat their body terribly, and who become overweight/obese compared to the number of people who do anything close to keeping in shape with sports, running, and so on. Not that that stops people from fucking, but the proportion of athletic, attractive people fucking is far lower than you might make it out to be.

[saulrh]

A lot of that is because, in the current world, staying fit is difficult. I, for example, would be in great shape if I could exercise. I like exercise. Exercise is, in fact, how I discovered that I have joint problems. I unfortunately don't have time to go to a pool every week, which is basically the only exercise I can handle, and so I have trouble with fitness. On larger scales, there are entire towns that don't have access to fresh fruit or vegetables; google "food desert". There are people that don't have enough money to buy anything other than pure calories per dollar without paying any attention to health. There are people whose household water is barely potable and drink soda all the time because it's cheaper than bottled water. There are people that grew up in households that drank soda and have sufficiently shitty jobs that they can't summon up the willpower to change that habit. Then you've got people that simply rolled badly on the genetic lottery or inherited bad intestinal flora and can't be fit no matter what they do.

Removing stresses on time, money, social interaction, culture, and mortality will make the population more healthy, not less healthy.

[toomuchtodo]

I agree mostly with your comment.

[bsder]

> Please excuse the low effort comment, but I've seen far more people who treat their body terribly, and who become overweight/obese compared to the number of people who do anything close to keeping in shape with sports, running, and so on.

Research has shown that a lack of "psychological bandwidth" degrades impulse control.

Being excessively poor, having to take care of children or elderly parents, having a crappy job, etc. all take their toll on your ability to execute on things like exercise, cleaning, saving, etc.

Removing the problem of "daily living expenses" from someone's plate is a HUGE step toward helping them improve their situation both physically and mentally.

[Trundle]

You have seen people right? Those that play sport, take care of themselves, and look vaguely attractive are the minority.

[prawn]

Have you been to a Walmart recently?

I don't think the Wall-E scenario is entirely off base.

[kzhahou]

Lol Walmart people are fat!

More accurately: there is a higher concentration of overweight people at a store that caters to lower income brackets.

When machines do everything, people won't have to settle for cheap unhealthy foods.

[prawn]

Many will still be too lazy to move enough. And they'll still be drawn to sugary food.

[bsder]

Walmart represents many people too poor to shop elsewhere.

Wall-E represents a utopia of plenty for everyone.

Those are not comparable.

[prawn]

There was a Walmart-like store featured in the movie.