[dogma1138]

Labour voters voted predominantly to to leave in this referendum more so than the conservatives.

[aidos]

What's the source for that? Not challenging you but I'd be interested to see a party breakdown.

[dogma1138]

The Labour party heartlands in England and Wales voted pretty much unanimously in favor to leave.

Jeremy Corbyn is already taking flak for this outcome: http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/24northnational/Labour-inq... https://next.ft.com/content/a035f3d2-39c4-11e6-a780-b48ed7b6... http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-blamed-f...

[newjersey]

This is ridiculous. London and Scotland overwhelmingly voted to stay. I have no love for labour after the alternate vote referendum but anyone who blames this on labour is clearly trying to rewrite history for scumbag David Cameron.

[mlnox]

I'm not sure you can characterise Scotland as Labour anymore. Largest party in the Scottish parliament are SNP, second largest Conservative, Labour are a measly third place.

As much as London is Labour supporting it's only a very small part of their supporter base, their traditional heartlands are Wales and the North of the UK, both of which overwhelmingly voted to leave.

[matthewmacleod]

I'm no defender of Cameron, but the Labour party in the UK have absolutely failed – both recently and during their last period in government – to engage with long-term problems of identity, especially in the north of England. A huge number of traditionally Labour-voting areas have opted to leave the EU, and the party have to bear some responsibility for that.

[xorcist]

That's true for the whole political spectrum, and not specifically labour voters.

It's a conflict that cuts through both parties and perhaps it is better described in terms of cities versus rural.

[berkut]

That explains the result of the referendum, not the agreeing to it in the first place.

[m_mueller]

As a Swiss this argument kind of baffles me. Governing according to the people's will should be the norm in a democracy, not some kind of strategic play.

[raverbashing]

Yes. Because you're thinking like a Swiss

Especially thinking that all decisions will be calm, collected and will result from evaluation of all sides

Most people will base a vote on false facts, spite and stuff like "following their heart"

[rjsw]

I suspect that a country has to have referendums fairly often for them to work as intended.

One problem in the UK was that people were answering different questions to the one asked.

[DanBC]

...and basing their answers on blatant lies. (EG We can spend some of the £350m per week on NHS.)

[arethuza]

I can see some nasty cutbacks to things like the NHS coming - ideologically motivated but justified by our self inflicted forthcoming recession.

[sievebrain]

How is that a "blatant lie"?

Does that money go to the EU? Yes.

Would that money be freed up for other uses? Yes.

Would some of it end up being reallocated to the NHS? Very likely, given the politics of the UK.

If you'd said ALL of it WILL go on the NHS then you'd be right, but you aren't arguing with that statement.

[SmellyGeekBoy]

Exactly. If the majority want out then we should come out - and I say that as a Remain voter. Really interested to see what the future has in store. Thankfully us tech people should weather it better than most.

[creshal]

Gerrymandering and other shady crap are still commonplace.

[kimi]

And sometimes inconvenient, eg Feb 9th.