[stepvhen]

I value my CS degree, but I also agree with the author. I don't think recruiters should ask for a CS degree, or focus on applicants having a formal CS education. There needs to be an simultaneous shift in the industry and in academia that allows for software engineering and computer science to be distinct diciplines with distinct goals: SE gets you into the industry, CS gets you into research. Most other sciences have their envineering partners, and technology should be no different.